"Mat Amin Pasar" @ Mohd Amin - 4 wives and 15 children

BIODATA OF MOHD AMIN

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Mohd Amin bin Hassan*
*Mohd Amin anak angkat Hassan bin Long.

Mohd Amin @ Mat Amin Pasar or Mat Amin Chow Kit.

Portrait from Bapak's pendrive in 2011.**

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BIODATA

Real name: Mohd Amin (bin Hassan, tapi anak angkat)

Call names: Mat Amin Pasar / Mat Amin Chow Kit?
Mohd Amin (Mat Amin Pasar/Chow Kit) (anak angkat Hassan bin Long)
Gender: Male

Date of birth (DOB): Unknown, circa 1866 (probably 1870s?)
Birthplace: Malacca, Straits Settlements.

Then he moved to open Kg Baru in KL, Federated Malay States (FMS)
He was founder Kg Baru
Home address: 1 Jalan Stony, Kampong Baru, Selangor, Federated Malay States
House landmark: "tiang batu" (according to Bapak)

Workplace: Pasar Kuala Lumpur (Pasar KL)
Occupation: Market Supervisor (Penguasa Pasar)

Demise: 1936 (Bapak said Mat Amin died semasa Bapak terjatuh dan terluka di dagu as a child)
Death: 1936 (66-74) (Bapak was born in 1931)
Place of Burial: Ampang Graveyard, Kuala Lumpur, Selangor, Federated Malay States (FMS)

Immediate Family:
Biological son of XX (his biological parents are unknown)

He was adopted as a youth and lived with his foster family:
Foster son of Hassan bin Long and Wife of Hassan bin Long

He married 4 wives:
Husband of Sharifah Banom (Che Pah); Sekmah; Anjah Nae'mat and Hasnah (Nenek Senah)


He had many children by 3 of his 4 wives:
Father of:

1. Abu Hassan; 
2. Hjh Aishah Md Amin (Esah/ Bik Esah/ Nenek Inchek); 
3. Aminah Mohd Amin; 
4. Bik Rahmah Mohd Amin; 
5. Mohd Noor Mohd Amin; 
6. Ismail Mohd Amin; 
7. Mak Ngah Mohd Amin; 
8. M Salleh M Amin (Long, Pak Lang Kg Baru, Tok Alang Kg Baru); 
9. Jamaliah ?; 
10. Saliha Mohd Amin (Petaling Jaya); 
11. Ali Mohd Amin (Tok Ali Gombak); 
12. Hjh Che Mah (Bik Che Mah) Mohd Amin; 
13. Bik Endon Mohd Amin (Alor Star, Kedah); 
14. Bik Enson Mohd Amin; 
15. Idris M Amin (Tok Busu Jengka); 
16. Zawiyah bte Mohd Amin; 
17. Hjh Rahmah (Bik Rama/Nenek Rama Kajang) and 
18. Hjh Zainab (Bik Jenab) Mohd Amin 

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From Geni.com:
MOHD AMIN (MAT AMIN PASAR)

Mohd Amin (Mat Amin Pasar) Penguasa Pasar Chow Kit, KL is your great grandfather.

You →  Hj Abdul Rashid Mohd Yusope
your father →  Hjh Aishah Md Amin (Esah/ Bik Esah/ Nenek Inchek)
his mother → Mohd Amin (Mat Amin Pasar) Penguasa Pasar Chow Kit, KL

her father

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PORTRAITS & PHOTOS

*This is the only photo of Mat Amin that we all have. We don't know if other photos of him exist.

Mohamed Shapri juga menghantar gambar Mat Amin Pasar drp Bik Rahmah Gombak in his email on 25 March 2016.
- this is the same photo of Mat Amin Pasar above
- it seems that there is no other photo of Mat Amin Pasar
- British records may have other photos of him or a group photo

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INTRODUCTION

Muhammad Amin (Mohd Amin) was a Javanese Malay man who worked in early Kuala Lumpur during British Malaya. His full name and date of birth are unknown by family members, surviving grandchildren and relatives.

He was the Market Keeper, Supervisor or Enforcement Officer (penguasa pasar) for Pasar Kuala Lumpur. Since he passed away circa 1936, before the Pasar Chow Kit brick building was constructed in 1955, he was probably working at Kuala Lumpur Central Market - the old one, before the 1937 brick building was ready - in the wet market section - ie, most possibly the section with fish stalls.

Mohd Amin was known by 2 call names, Mat Amin Pasar (referring to Pasar Kuala Lumpur/Kuala Lumpur Central Market) and Mat Amin Chow Kit (referring to Pasar Chow Kit). Both markets are in different locations.

Kuala Lumpur Central Market was the older one and began in 1888 as a few long and low market buildings by the river. It was upgraded and finally reconstructed as the brick building present today. It was both a wet and dry market. and later became a dry market and now a gallery for handicrafts and souvenir stalls plus eateries.

Pasar Chow Kit (Chow Kit Market) was probably a sprawling market initially and a brick market was constructed in 1955 and upgraded later. It is now demolished (2016), and a temporary market serves the area. This market is jam packed and stalls are crowded with narrow walking paths. The floor is wet and uneven.

As Market Supervisor, Mat Amin was much respected. He need not purchase vegetables and fish as these were given to him FOC by the stall owners. The stall owners gave him their best samples for the day, and everyday! The market owners gave him the best fish and vegetables free. As such he developed a high taste for fish; he would only eat fish of a certain size - e.g., ikan parang not less than 8 inches wide.

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RESIDENCE

From Bapak 
Mat Amin Pasar lived in Jalan Stony, Kampong Baru, Selangor, the Federated Malay States. Today, only a brick post (tiang batu) marks the spot of his house. Nobody has a photograph of his house.

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DEMISE

Mat Amin Pasar lived healthily and well. He had sufficient food and a full life. According to Pak Cik Hassan, Mat Amin Pasar passed away in 1936 (my Bapak was 5 years old). His grandchildren never saw a glimpse of him in the flesh. He is remembered by all descendants as the famed Mat Amin Pasar, the market keeper, enforcement officer or supervisor. 

Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi rojiuun.

Al-Fatihah.

May he rest in peace, in sya Allah.

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DIET

MOHD AMIN OBTAINED FREE FISH AND VEGETABLES
FROM PASAR KUALA LUMPUR

From Tan Sri Dr Abdul Majid bin Ismail, interviewed 11 May 2007

The market owners gave Mat Amin Pasar the best fish and vegetables free.

From Pak Saleh (8 June 2011):

Mat Amin worked at Pasar Kuala Lumpur; the wet market is Pasar Chow Kit. He probably owned the entire market or owned a stall in the market. He would only eat fish of a certain size - eg ikan parang not less than 8 inches wide.

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UNIONS & WIVES

FOUR WIVES OF MOHD AMIN

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From Bapak (13 October 2007):
Bapak (HARMY = Haji Abdul Rashid bin Mohd Yusope)
Mat Amin Pasar had 3 or 4 wives: 

1. First wife: Aminah? ......... No, incorrect.
2. Second wife: Rahmah? .... No, incorrect.
3. Third wife: ?
4. Fourth wife: ?

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From Mak Bedah (8 June 2011):Mat Amin Pasar/Chow Kit married four wives:

1. 1st wife: Che' Pah; she had a son named Abu Hassan
2. 2nd wife: Sekmah; she had 6 children (she is the mother of Nenek Inche)
3. 3rd wife: Mother of Bik Rama (her name is unknown); she had 8 children
4. 4th wife: Hasnah (she was known as Nenek Senah); she was childless with Mat Amin

Altogether, Nenek Inche had 15 siblings from 3 mothers; a fourth mother was barren with Mat Amin but had children from her previous marriage..

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4 wives of Mat Amin Pasar/Chow Kit as narrated by Mak Bedah on 8 June 2011

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From me (2 October 2015):

Mat Amin Pasar/Chow Kit married four wives.
Who was Banom? What was her full name?
Did Mohd Amin marry Banom? Is she the mother of Nenek Inche? No. 

1st wife: Che' Pah. What is her full name? Was her name Sharifah Bainun? How many children did she have? She had a son named Abu Hassan Mohd Amin. Where is he today?

2nd wife: Sekmah; she had 5 children (she is the mother of Nenek Inchek) Yes. Pak Cik Hassan said to add Nyonya (20 Nov 2018).

3rd wife: Anjah bt Nae'mat. Mother of Bik Che Mah.

4th wife: Hasnah (she was known as Nenek Senah). What is her full name? She was childless with Mat Amin but had children from her previous marriage, to whom? What was her previous husband's name? Who are her children from her previous marriage.

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From his grandchildren

From various accounts of his grandchildren and grand-son-in-law (Pak Cik Hassan), we know he had 4 wives. His first wife, Che' Pah, bore him a son. His second wife, Sekmah, bore him 6 children including Nyonya. His third wife, Anjah, bore him 8 children including Zawyah. His fourth wife, Hasnah @ Senah, was childless with Mat Amin, but had children from a previous marriage. Altogether, Mat Amin Pasar had 21 children from 3 of his 4 wives.

1. Che' Pah - 1 son
2. Sekmah - 6 children including Nyonya (Nenek Inchek's mother; she died when Nenek Inchek was 6 years old.* Another source says her mother's name is Hindun)
3. Anjah - 8 children  including Zawyah
4. Hasnah @ Senah - childless (she had children from a previous marriage)

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Update from me (20 November 2018)
based on information from Dato' Abdul Hadi bin Othman (anak Nenek Aminah bt Mohd Amin Pasar) and from Pak Cik Hassan bin Mohd Rashid (Kajang).

Mohd Amin @ Pak Amin Pasar had 4 wives:

1. Baizura - ? Her real name is unknown. She could be Sharifah Bainun (Kak Pah?) or Banom or Baizura
2. Hindun - ibu Nenek Aminah and Nenek Inchek. She could be Sekmah or Hindun.
3. Anjah (not Enjah. Enjah is Anjah's sister, who is Tan Sri Abdul Majid's mother)
4. Hasnah - anak2 from her previous marriage. None with Pak Amin Pasar.

Anak Che Pah/Banom/Baizura (1st wife of Pak Amin Pasar):

1. Abu Hassan - nothing is known about this son

Anak2 Hindun/Sekmah (2nd wife of Pak Amin Pasar):

1. Mohd Nor (Hj Buruk in Tan Sri Abdul Majid's book)
2. Aminah (Nenek Aminah, ibu Dato' Abdul Hadi bin Othman) m. Othman
3. Salleh (Tok Alang Kg Baru) m. Sum bt Ahmad
4. Ismail (Pak Busu Ma'el)
5. Aishah (Nenek Inchek) m. Mohd Yusope bin Hj Md Sharif
6. Nyonya (her name was obtained from Pak Cik Hassan)

Anak2 Anjah (3rd wife of Pak Amin Pasar):

1. Che Mah (Bik Che Mah) m. Tok Rashid, Serdang
2. Ali (Tok Ali Gombak) m. Rahmah bt Ismail (adik #2/9 Tan Sri Abdul Majid)
3. Zaleha (Bik Leha di PJ) m. Ahmad bin Dom
4. Zainab (Bik Jenab di Singapura & Kg Baru) m. Nasir (Utusan Melayu, Singapura)
5. Hindun/Endun (Nenek Endon) m. Tok Ali, Alor Star, Kedah
6. Ensun (Nenek Ensun) m. Ghani
7. Idris (Tok Busu Jengka) m. Nenek Busu of Terengganu
8. Zawyah (her name was obtained from Pak Cik Hassan)

Anak2 Hasnah (4th wife of Pak Amin Pasar):

• Nenek Hasnah had her own children from her previous marriage
• She was a widow when she married to Pak Amin Pasar as his 4th wife
• Her children are thus Pak Amin Pasar's step-children
• She had no children with Pak Amin Pasar

Altogether, Pak Amin Pasar had 15 children from his 3 wives, and a few step-children from his 4th wife.
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15 CHILDREN OF MOHD AMIN @ MAT AMIN PASAR

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From Pak Cik Hassan
anak Tok Rashid Serdang, 11 June 2010:

Mat Amin Pasar
Children: 8
All 8 children are deceased.

1. Muhamad Saleh (Long) di Kg Baru - eldest ... this is "Tok Alang Kg Baru," Abang Nenek Inche 
2. Bik Che' Mah di Serdang ... isteri Tok Rashid Serdang (bapak Pak Cik Hassan)
3. Idris (Busu) - tinggal di Jengka (deceased) ... kahwin Nenek Busu
4. Bik Endon kahwin Tok Ali (Information Officer/Pegawai Penerangan) di Alor Star, Kedah
5. Bik Rahmah di Kajang. Either her husband/son was the Ambassador to Japan
6. Bik Leha di Petaling Jaya (deceased). Bik Ninggal - she is Nenek Inchek's cousin
7. Aishah bt Mohd Amin (Nenek Inche) - Her mother died when she was 6 years old. She married at age 12, to Tok Walid, Mohd Yusope bin Hj Mohd Sharif of Banda Hilir.

Children from Mohd Amin's 1st wife, _____ (her name is unknown)
All her children have passed away.

1. Mohd Nor ... @ Haji Buruk
2. Mak Ngah ... who is this?
3. Muhamad Saleh ... this is Tok Alang of Kg Baru in KL, bapak Mak Cik Jamilah
4. Esah ... this is Bik Esah. I call her Nenek Inche. She is Aishah bt Mohd Amin
5. Ismail (Pak Busu Mail, KL)  ... who is this?

Children from Mohd Amin's 2nd wife, Anjah
All her children have passed away.

1. Che Mah (died 1975) ... this is the wife of Tok Rashid of Serdang, ibu Pak Cik Hassan 
2. Ali ... this is Tok Ali of Gombak
3. Zainab ... this is Bik Jenab. Her husband is Nasir (passed away in early 1950s 1948)
4. Salihah bte Mohd Amin ... this is Bik Leha, ibu Mak Cik Salmah Ahmad
5. Enson ... this is Bik Enson
6. Endon ... this is Bik Endon of Alor Setar, married to Tok Ali of Kedah
7. Idris ... this is Tok Busu Jengka. He married Nenek Busu Jengka.

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One son from Mohd Amin's first wife, Che Pah:

(eldest son of Mohd Amin by his first wife)

1. ABU HASSAN BIN MOHD AMIN

There is no update on him.

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6 Children from Mohd Amin's second wife, Sekmah or Hindun:

All her children have passed away.

1. Mohd Nor ... @ Haji Buruk
2. Mak Ngah ... who is this?
3. Muhamad Saleh ... this is Tok Alang of Kg Baru in KL, bapak Mak Cik Jamilah
4. Esah ... this is Bik Esah. I call her Nenek Inche. She is Aishah bt Mohd Amin
5. Ismail (Pak Busu Mail, KL)  ... who is this?
6. Nyonya .. who is this?

1. MOHD NOR BIN MOHD AMIN

@ HAJI BURUK

Mohd Nor Mohd Amin @ Haji Buruk (he was mentioned in Tan Sri's book)
All his children have passed away.

1. Mohamad bin Mohd Nor
2. Kassim bin Mohd Nor
3. Maznah bt Mohd Nor
4. Khalijah bt Mohd Nor

Mohamad and Kassim are brothers.

Maznah and Khalijah are sisters.

From me

There is a photo of Maznah's and Khalijah's children at Bik Leha's house when Bik Leha returned from the Hajj in 1976. Mak and Kamariah Bujang (carrying Afiq) were also in one photo, along with Mak Cik Uda -Tan Sri Coco's sister.

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I don't know where Kak Normah bt Abdul Hamid belongs in our family trees. She knows Bik Esah (Nenek Inchek). She said they are closely related, but how? Her father is Abdul Hamid. Her grandparents are Muttalib and Halimah. Her other grandfather is Mohd Nor/Md Noor. Is Mohd Noor nicknamed Haji Buruk? If so, she is cucu Hj Md Noor @ Hj Buruk. Her father is Abdul Hamid and her mother is therefore either Maznah or Khalijah.

Full name: Normah bt Abdul Hamid
Call name: I call her Kak Normah-Abang Hadi
Her father: Abdul Hamid bin Muttalib
Her mother: either Maznah bt Md Nor or Khalijah bt Md Nor
Her paternal grandparents: could be Muttalib and Halimah
Her maternal grandparents: could be Hj Md Nor and __

Her husband: Abdul Hadi Awang Hamat (28 July 1949)
I call him: Abang Hadi-Kak Noma

Residence:
Villa Rahmat, Lot 179 Jalan Telipot, 15150 Kota Bharu, Kelantan.

Children: 4

1. Norhadiman (Iman) bin Abdul Hadi
2. Yuri bin Abdul Hadi - UTM lecturer in Architecture at De MontFort University, Leicester, UK
3. Imee Nadia (Imee) bt Abdul Hadi (27 Oct 1983) - Asst. Director Aswara in KL
4. Ili Hanim (Ili/Ilyhan on FB) bt Abdul Hadi (14 Jan 1988)


Abdul Hadi Awang Hamat in Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/HajiAbdulHadi

Kak Normah on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007634685819

Iman Hadi on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/iman210

Yuri Hadi on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/hayuri.hadi

Imee Nadia on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/imee.nadia

Ili Hanim n Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ilyhan.hadi

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2. MAK NGAH

Mak Ngah ... who is she?

There is no update on her.

3. MUHAMAD SALEH BIN MOHD AMIN

@ LONG / TOK ALANG KG BARU

Muhamad Saleh bin Mohd Amin
@ Tok Alang Kg Baru.
Abang Nenek Inchek.

Full name: Muhamad Saleh (Muhammad Salleh) bin Mohd Amin
Call names: Muhamad Saleh (Long) di Kg Baru; Bapak addressed him as Pak Lang. I called him Tok Alang/Tok Alang Kg Baru.
He is Abang kepada Nenek Inchek; he is the eldest (sulong) but there is Hj Md Nor?

He is bapa kepada Mak Cik Milah isteri Pak Cik Hassan
Born: __
Deceased: __

Wife: Sum bt Ahmad @ Shamsiah bt Ahmad
Her call names: Mak called her Sum. Others called her Mak Lang/Mak Lang Kg Baru. I called her Nenek Alang Kg Baru
Born: __
Deceased: Nenek Alang passed away on 14 February 2015 @ 5:30 pm.

Children: 7

1. Zaiton (b.1.10.1946) - eldest; married to Zainal Abidin bin Ibrahim (84 Jln 2, Ampang Jaya, Selangor)
2. Jamilah (b.23.7.1948) - Mak Cik Milah; married to Pak Cik Hassan bin Mohd Rashid (anak Tok Rashid Serdang and Bik Che Mah #6/13; kakak Nenek Inchek. 3 Desa Al-Amin, Kg Sg Tangkas, Kajang. Mak Cik Jamilah: 019-350 8343)
3. Hasnah (b.16.7.1953) - married to Abdul Ghani Mohammed (19 Feb 1952-28 April 2011; deceased), 3 children. (No. 94, Jln Bunga Kekwa 2/12, Shah Alam; 019-200 8121)
4. Mohd Yusope (b.3.12.1955-d.9.1998) (unmarried; deceased Sept 1998 @ HKL)
5. Abdul Latiff (b.1.1.1958-d.5.2005) (unmarried; deceased May 2005 @ Hospital Klang)
6. Prof Hamzah Salleh - Biochemistry, USA. UIA. Married Nor Jannah Hassan (No 23, Jln Nakhoda Kiri 3, Kg Nakhoda, Batu Caves; 013-345 7711)
7. Zulkifli - married; first wife passed away May 2007; re-married, to Aida A. Rahim, second wife (17 Jalan P9 A/4, Presint 9, Putrajaya)

In front from left: Zaiton (eldest child), Jamilah, and Hasnah. Back row from left: Sum bt Ahmad (wife), Mohd Salleh bin Mohd Amin (Tok Alang Kg Baru) holding Mohd Yusope (deceased), and Bik Wah anak Nenek Inchek. Undated photo. Photo from Prof Hamzah M Saleh. 1 July 2014.

Pak Cik Hassan, Mak Cik Milah and Halimah visited us at home in Taman Makmur, Kg Chicha. Jan 2015

Pak Cik Hassan, anak #6/13 Tok Rashid Serdang. Jan 2015

Mak Cik Milah, anak #2/7 Tok Alang Kg Baru, KL. Jan 2015

Halimah Hassan, anak bongsu Pak Cik Hassan dan Mak Cik Milah. Jan 2015

Keluarga Mak Cik Hasnah 

Mak Cik Hasnah

Professor Dr Hamzah bin Mohd Salleh

Office : E0-2-2-065

Department of Biotechnology Engineering & the International Institute for Halal Research & Training (INHART)

IIUM Gombak (since 1995)

Phone : +603 6196 4426 / 4495

hp: 013-345 7711

Emails : hamzah@iium.edu.my & hamzahvi@yahoo.com.my 

Website: http://staff.iiu.edu.my/hamzah/

Hamzah Mohd. Salleh  (b.16.2.1963)

23 Jalan Nakhoda Kiri 3

Kg. Nakhoda, Bt. Caves, 

Selangor 68100.

House: 03-61775179

Wife: Nor Jannah bt Hassan (b. 19.3.1964)

Children: 5 (all were born at Kitchener, Ontario in Canada)

Names of children:

1. Mohammad Khair Hamzah (b.26.11.1985)
2. Maryam Hamzah (b.17.11.1987)
3. Munira Hamzah (b.22.5.1989) married to Salman
4. Muhsin Hamzah (b.26.6.1990)
5. Mohammad Haneef Hamzah (b.18.8.1993)

Keluarga Prof Hamzah Mohd Salleh

Keluarga Prof Hamzah Mohd Salleh

(Pak Cik) Prof Hamzah Mohd Salleh
Anak Tok Alang #6/7.

(Mak Cik) Dr Nor Jannah, isteri Prof Hamzah Mohd Salleh

4. AISHAH BTE MOHD AMIN

@ INCHEK / NENEK INCHEK / BIK ESAH
1906-1978

Aishah bt Mohd Amin
(Bik Esah/Nenek Inche)
Anak Mat Amin Pasar/Chow Kit
Isteri Walid/Tok Walid.
Bapak punya mak.

Full name: Aishah bt Mohd Amin
Call names: Bapak & Mak Bedah addressed her as Inchek. I called her Nenek Inchek. Kak Normah-Abang Hadi referred to her as Bik Esah.
Born: 1906 (estimated)
Deceased: 1978 (aged 71)
Nenek Inchek was Bapak punya mak; ibu kepada Bapak.

Nenek Inchek was Bapak's mother. She was my Nenek Inchek

Buried: Nenek Inche dikebumikan di Kampong Cangkat, dan bukan di Semabok, Melaka.
Date of marriage: April 1920 (estimated)
Children: 15
Nenek Inchek mempunyai 15 orang anak.

Her father: Mohd Amin @ Mat Amin Pasar
Her mother: either Sekmah or Hindun

Her mother died when she was 6 years old, sometime in 1912/13 (WW1).

She married at age 12, going on 13, in 1920. Her first child was born in 1921.

She married to Mohd Yusope bin Haji Mohd Shariff (Tok Hj Mohd Sharif), Banda Hilir

She lived at Jalan Imbi in KL before the war, and in Banda Hilir when KL was bombed

She had 15 children, but 2 died; 13 survived to adulthood and married, and had families

Her children addressed their mother as Inchek

Nama anak Nenek Inchek/Bik Esah:

1. Ainon (lahir Ahad, 10 pagi, 6/2/1921)
2. Idris (meninggal)
3. Zaina (lahir Khamis, 12 malam, 3/4/1924)
4. Ramlah (lahir Sabtu, 5 pagi, 29/9/1925)
5. Shamsu'ain (meninggal)
6. Sara (lahir Khamis, 6 petang, 3/5/1928)
7. Abu Bakar (lahir Khamis, 7:28 malam, 19/3/1930
8. Abdul Rashid (lahir Sabtu, 3:20 petang, 28/11/1931)
9. Rahmah (lahir Rabu, 7:30 pagi, 15/11/1933) ........ Mak Nya Gombak
10. Safura (lahir Selasa, 8:27 malam, 21/5/1935)
11. Jaafar (lahir Ahad, 11:05 pagi, 28/8/1936)
12. Inchek Beda (lahir Khamis 1:55 petang, 25/10/1938)
13. Baharudin (lahir Jumaat, 6 pagi, 14/6/1940)
14. Inchek Sekmah (lahir Khamis, 12:20 pagi, 13/11/1941)
15. Saleh (lahir Khamis, 6:30 petang, 12/2/45) ...... lahir semasa Perang Dunia Kedua (WW2)

She lived with our family and followed us everywhere.

Towards her old age, she lived in her own wooden house in Gombak beside Mak Nya's house.

We visited her a few times in Gombak.

She suffered from complications of diabetes and died in Gombak.

She is interred in KL and not in Semabok as planned. Nenek Inchek dikebumikan di Kampong Cangkat, dan bukan di Semabok, Melaka.

When I was attending Kolej Tunku Kurshiah in Seremban (1974-75), Bapak took a few photos of Mak Nya and her family at her Gombak house. At the time, Nenek Inchek was living with Mak Nya, and so some photos had both Mak Nya and Nenek Inchek. I remember Nenek Inchek said (something to this effect), "Aku tak nak ambik gambau. Aku tau bila ambik gambau, tanda aku nak mati..." I think it is true, that people take a lot of photos of you before you die, and in case you die. Nenek Inchek later passed away of diabetic complications at Mak Nya's house circa 1978.

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Mak Nya's house in Gombak. Nenek Inchek is seated. Pak Aziz is wearing kain pelekat, and standing next to Mak Nya. Rahim (Abdul Wahid) is at far right. The 3 girls are Pah, Rabi and me. The 2 boys are Farid and Amin. The 2 little girls in front are Jamaliah and Dora, anak Mak Nya.

5. ISMAIL BIN MOHD AMIN

@ PAK BUSU MA'EL

Ismail bin Mohd Amin @ Pak Busu Ma'el
Wife: __

Children: 4

1. Mohd Nor
2. Norma/Normah ... this is not Kak Norma-Abang Hadi of Kelantan.
3. Rabiah/Rubiah
4. Maimon

6. NYONYA BT MOHD AMIN

@ NYA?

Nyonya bt Mohd Amin

Pak Cik Hassan gave her name.
Nothing is known about her.
Tan Sri Abdul Majid said he called his mother "Nya".

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8 Children of Mohd Amin's third wife, Anjah bt Nekmat

All her children have passed away.

1. Che Mah (1918-1975) ... this is the wife of Tok Rashid of Serdang, ibu Pak Cik Hassan 
2. Zainab (1919-1983) ... this is Bik Jenab. Her husband is Nasir bin Mohd Zain (passed away in 1948)
3. Ali ... this is Tok Ali of Gombak
4. Salihah bte Mohd Amin ... this is Bik Leha, ibu Mak Cik Salmah Ahmad
5. Enson ... this is Bik Enson
6. Endon ... this is Bik Endon of Alor Setar, married to Tok Ali of Kedah
7. Idris ... this is Tok Busu Jengka. He married Nenek Busu Jengka.
8. Zawyah/Zawiyah

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1. CHE MAH BT MOHD AMIN

@ BIK CHE MAH 1918-1975

Full name: Che Mah bt Mohd Amin (anak Mat Amin Pasar)
Call name: Bik Che Mah Serdang ... adik Nenek Inchek
Born: 1918
Deceased: Bik Che Mah died in December 1975 in Mina (Wukuf)

She is the first wife of Tok Rasid of Serdang, ibu Pak Cik Hassan.
Husband: Mohd Rasid bin Ahmad (from Singapore). He worked at the Serdang Agricultural School.
Call name: Tok Rasid Serdang ... see below

Children: 13

1. Siti Rafeah *
2. Siti Ayeshah *
3. Harun *
4. Abdul Rahman *
5. Abdul Rahim - married Dr Jariah Masood. Insun Sony Mustapha Hussain Fenner knew Abdul Rahim bin Mohd Rasid. Pak Cik Rahim appeared on several gardening programs on TV. He wrote the book Seri Taman.
6. Hassan (Pak Cik Hassan) - married Jamilah bt Muhammad Salleh (Mak Cik Milah).
7. Ali* - Abidin Hussin knew Ali bin Mohd Rasid while at Bukit Besi.
8. Siti Zubaidah (Bangi)
9. Zainal Abidin (Bidin)
10. Siti Khatijah (Ampang)
11. Siti Mariam (Moni)
12. Siti Hajar (Bibi) - She came to visit me in Chico, California in 1980. She taught at MRSM P. Chepa.
13. Ahmad (Taman Melawati) - he is Mat Rasid in Facebook. Wife is Norsiah Din.

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Abdul Rahim bin Mohd Rashid (#5/13) married Dr Jariah Masud (Rembau). According to Nonie anak Pak Din, Dr Jariah teaches Family Finance at UPM Serdang. Jariah Masood is kakak ipar Pak Cik Hassan. She is the wife of Pak Cik Hassan's brother, Abdul Rahim b Mohd Rashid.

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Pak Cik Hassan (#6/13): hmr47@streamyx.com. Pak Cik Hassan & Mak Cik Jamilah's children:

1. Effendi bin Hassan - married Seri Idawaty Mat Zain (reception 12 Feb 2011)
2. Melati bt Hassan - nurse; worked in UAE; now owns 2-3 dialysis centres in Perak and Kelantan
3. Edila bt Hassan (UKM; Eddie in FB)
4. Fatimah bt Hassan (UNITEN)
5. Halimah bt Hassan (UIA) - visited Taman Makmur, Kg Chicha in Kubang Kerian, Kelantan on 31 January 2015.

Me, Mak Cik Jamilah Muhamad Saleh, Pak Cik Hassan Mohd Rashid and Affandi Hussien.

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Siti Hajar bt Mohd Rashid (#12/13). I was with Mak Cik Siti Hajar bt Mohd Rashid at my residence, 609 Rancheria Drive, Chico, California; May 1980.

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Mohd Rasid bin Ahmad @ Pak Rashid, Serdang
Full name: Mohd Rasid bin Ahmad
Call name: Bapak called him Pak Rashid (suami Bik Che Mah, kakak Nenek Inche). I called him Tok Rashid Serdang.
Born: 1914, Kampong Melayu, Singapore (on the west coast)
Deceased: 1986, interred at Perkuburan Serdang, UPM; aged 73 years

Parents
Father: Ahmad bin Hassan
Mother: Unknown (she died after giving birth)

Siblings (all Singaporeans)

1. Mohd Rashid (Pak Rashid/Tok Rashid) 1914-1986
2. Ismail
3. Said
4. Yusof - Haji Yusoff bin Ahmad married Hajah Arfah bt Hamzah (daughter of Dr Hamzah bin Md Taib (1900-1955) and Hajah Safiah bt Dato' Haji Abdullah - refer pages 458-459 of my book)
5. Salamah
6. Safiah
7. Maimunah
8. Salleh (KL)
9. Asiah
10. Daud
11. Kalthom

Biography Tok Rashid Serdang

1. He graduated from Raffles College in 1935, in the same class as Tan Sri Prof Ahmad Ibrahim, Kuliyyah of Laws, UIAM. He was active in Shakespeare theatre. The theatre group was all white people and he was the first Malay in the theatre group.
2. Pak Rashid taught at an Arab school after graduation. Which Arab school?
3. Pak Rashid was in the Pahang Volunteer Force during World War II/Japanese occupation.
4. Pak Rashid was anti UMNO and hated UMNO (ikut telunjuk). His party & logo had seikat padi. 
5. He was one of the early lecturers at UPM.
6. Pak Rashid and datok Mohd Yusope worked together in one department in Kuala Lumpur, before WWII.
7. After WWII, Pak Rashid and Pak Idris worked with an iron mining company in Terengganu, which shipped iron to Japan.
8. Nationalist - Pak Rashid fought for UMNO but left, along with Dato Onn Jaafar
9. Aziz Ishak (Pak Aziz) was his good friend. He was jailed under ISA for 20 years, without trial. Pak Rashid competed against Aziz as they didn't know. Baja urea was $4 billion/year. Aziz Ishak had blocked? He wrote a book, Guest. He was unfairly charged; Tun Hussien Onn reinstated and paid him the losses & pay. His brother Yusof Ishak was Singapore's first President
10. Brothers Aziz Ishak and Yusof Ishak are from the Datuk Jenaton Minangkabau lineage, and are related to Nakhoda Nan Intan and Nakhoda Kecil.
11. He was at Kolej Pertanian
12. He lost the election and went to work at an iron mine in Terengganu which earned $300 million/year in 1950. Bukit Besi closed in 1964. Bukit Besi is isolated, 18 miles from Dungun. Bukit Besi already had a supermarket then. Iron was exported via Sura to Japan. Bukit Besi iron was of low quality, used for plating, cannot be used for shipbuilding. The family lived in wealth. Abidin Hussin (in Facebook, 1 February 2015): He says he knows Pak Rashid, Hassan Rashid and Ali when they were at Bukit Besi before.
13. He was an Agricultural Officer, earning $2000/month (a lecturer's pay was $400/mo) at Kolej Pertanian which was 43 acres. He was at Kolej Pertanian in 1947-1955. When he came back for the interview, there was still no development. That time Tun Abdul Razak was developing FELDA. Kolej Pertanian was isolated. Pak Rashid returned to UPM with $800/mo pay. UPM had 3,000 acres of land. He had built UPM from scratch and served UPM. The Rashid Foundation was set up at UPM in his honour.
14. Pak Rashid Serdang married twice. Pak Rashid first married Bik Che Mah (she died in Makkah in 1975). Pak Rashid remarried. He escaped to Malaysia for 10 years until Pak Cik Hassan was born. Then he was reunited. He had ran away because he could not marry his sweetheart. He married her later, after 40 years. His second wife was Rahmah (saudara anjing) - they married at 60 years; she already had her own children. 
15. Pak Rashid suffered from lung cancer. He was referred to Wak Majid's son, Dr Jefri (Wak Majid is Tan Sri Dr Abdul Majid). He had asked Pak Hassan to call Dr Jefri. Dr Jefri operated on him. The right lung was removed (60%). He survived another 3 years. He was 73 when he died.

Mohd Rashid @ Pak Rashid, Founder of UPM (1914-1986)

Pak Rashid the Chegu

Pak Cik Hassan informed that Tok Rashid's Serdang younger brother Yusof bin Ahmad married to Dr Hamzah's daughter, Arfah. Their son is Prof Nordin.

From my book, Biography of the Early Malay Doctors 1900-1957:
Dr Hamzah bin Mohd Taib (1900-1955) was an early Malay doctor from Johor (pages 448-463). He had 10 children from his first wife, Hajah Safiah bt Dato' Haji Abdullah: Anisah, Rokiah, Arfah, a daughter (deceased at childhood), Jamaliah, Mustafa, Md Yusof, Khadijah, Yunus, and Ishak (pages 458-459).

I had mentioned about Hajah Arfah and her husband Haji Yusoff Ahmad on page 459. Haji Yusoff Ahmad was Senior Manager of Ford Motors in Singapore. They have five children-Aziz, Ismail, Rosli, Professor Dr Nordin, and Latifah.

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2. ALI BIN MOHD AMIN
@ TOK ALI GOMBAK

Ali bin Mohd Amin @ Tok Ali Gombak

Tok Ali married Rahmah bt Ismail (Coco's sister, child #2 of 9)

Full name: Ali bin Mohd Amin

Call name: Tok Ali Gombak

Born: __

Deceased: __

Wife: Rahmah bt Ismail

Her call names: Nenek Rahmah / Bik Rahmah / Bik Rama / Bik Ama

She is Tan Sri Dr Abdul Majid's sister (sib #2 of 9)

As a child, Rahmah was fluent in Tamil

Rahmah’s husband is Ali bin Mohd Amin (Mat Amin Pasar) 

Rahmah is Nenek Rahmah to me and my siblings. 

She is Bik Rama to my parents.

Born: __

Deceased: __

Children: 5

1. Abdul Ghani @Atan - he was mentioned in Tan Sri's book - An Old Man Remembers, 2006
2. Kalsom @ Kak Tachom (deceased)
3. Kamsiah ... did she visit our house in Jalan Day, Alor Setar in Kedah?
4. Razak - retired Maybanker, lives in Fasa 6 Taman Melawati
5. Zul (deceased)

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Photos from Bapak's pendrive of 2009:

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Ali bin Mohd Amin @ Tok Ali Gombak (left) and my father, Bapak (Abdul Rashid bin Mohd Yusope). Tok Ali is also my paternal granduncle - my grandmother's brother, and my father's uncle.

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On the left is Nenek Rahmah bt Ismail (Coco's sister, #2, also known as Bik Rama), wife of Tok Ali Gombak. Pak Din (Baharuddin bin Mohd Yusope) is in the middle. This is Tok Ali's home in Gombak. From Abang Sharif (25 April 2012): In pink dress - Maimunah aka Mak Besar/Habsah anak Tok Ali Kedah. From me, Mak Cik Habsah is deceased.

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Pak Cik Razak bin Ali 1954 (portrait cropped from photo below)

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Kamsiah and Razak, anak Pak Li (Tok Ali Gombak), 29 April 1954.
Photos from Bapak's collection. They are now more than 62 years old in 2016.
They are my Mak Cik Kamsiah and Pak Cik Razak.

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Photos from my cousin Shawal anak Bik Wa, 5 August 2015:

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Keluarga Tok Ali-Bik Ramah Gombak. 
Photo was taken at the hospital quarters in Jalan Fletcher off Jalan Pekeliling (now Jalan Tun Razak). Orang lama panggil Sekelar Road (Circular Road). 
Tok Ali and Bik Ramah are seated in front. 5 Children standing from left: Razak, Kalsom@Kak Tachom, Ghani@Atan, Kamsiah, and Zul. Photo from Shawal Mohd Zan (anak Bik Wa), 5 Aug 2015

PHOTO7
Tok Ali-Bik Ramah's family at their Gombak home.
Photo from Shawal Mohd Zan, 5 Aug 2015

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From left: Shawal with wife and son, daughter of Tok Ali, Kak Puteh, and Mastura anak Bik Wa with husband Bahrom. Photo from Shawal Mohd Zan, 5 Aug 2015

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From left: Mastura, daughter of Tok Ali, Kak Puteh and Taty wife of Shawal.
Photo from Shawal Mohd Zan, 5 Aug 2015

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3. ZAINAB BTE MOHD AMIN

@ BIK JENAB / NENEK JENAB

1919-1983

Full name: Hjh Zainab bt Mohd Amin
Call names: Bapak addressed her as Bik Jenab. I addressed her as Nenek Jenab.
Relationship: Nenek Jenab was Nenek Inchek's younger sister by another mother.
DOB: 23 January 1919 in Kg Baharu, Kuala Lumpur
Occupation: Tailor, cook, making up brides (Mak Andam)
Date of demise: 12 February 1983 (aged 64)
Place of burial: Muslim cemetery, behind Petronas, Stadium Perak
Residence: No. 5, Jalan Stony ... later changed to No. 10, Jalan Sultan Sulaiman Kelab
Husband: Nasir bin Mohd Zain (proofreader with Utusan Melayu in Singapore; deceased 1948)

From Pak Cik Hassan (6 March 2015)
Nenek Zainab suaminya Nasir meninggal awal 50s 1948. Anaknya Hamid dan Yatim. Hamid is in Ipoh and Yatim has been missing for a few years and our guess he is in Indonesia.

Zainab bt Mohd Amin @ Bik Zainab (Bik Jenab) 
She married to Nasir (deceased early 1950s 1948)
Sons:

1. Hamid (in Ipoh)
2. Yatim (probably in Indonesia)

From Pak Cik Hamid anak Bik Jenab (by email on 25 March 2016):

Hjh Zainab bt Mohd Amin @ Bik Jenab, Kg Bharu

- ada 2 anak:

1. Mohamed Shapri bin Nasir (Mohamed Shapri is better known as Hamid in Kg Bharu) - Ipoh
2. Mohamed Yatim bin Nasir - he lives at Bukit Tinggi in Sumatra, Indonesia

Contact:

Mohamed Shapri Nasir @ Hamid (deceased 2016)

2 Persiaran Bintang

Taman Sunrise

31400 Ipoh

Email: masyar@yahoo.com

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26 June 1988. One nenek is Nenek Zainab (Bik Jenab). The other nenek is Nenek Enson (Bik Enson). Photo from Bapak's pendrive of 2009.

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4. SALIHAH BTE MOHD AMIN

@ BIK LEHA / NENEK LEHA

PHOTO1
Salihah bte Mohd Amin
@ Bik Leha / Nenek Leha

Salihah bte Mohd Amin @ Bik Leha / Nenek Leha
Full name: Salihah bte Mohd Amin
Call name: Bapak, Mak and Mak Bedah called her Bik Leha. I called her Nenek Leha.
Her mother is Enjah.

Husband: Ahmad bin Dom
She married to Ahmad bin Dom
Bik Leha lived in Petaling Jaya (deceased).

Children: 7

1. Zainal (deceased)
2. Ariffin (deceased)
3. Salmah (8 December 1953) - lives in Kucing
4. Sulaiman
5. Salmiah (2 April 1956) - lives in Shah Alam
6. Jasmine 
7. Rosli (deceased)

Anak2 Nenek Leha in Facebook:

Salmah Ahmad in Facebook

Salmiah Ahmad in Facebook

Jasmin Ahmad in Facebook

PHOTO2

Tea at Rumah Banda Hilir, early 1960s. Mak Ainon serving Nenek Ensun and Nenek Leha, adik-beradik Nenek Inchek. Photo from Bapak's pendrive of 2009.

PHOTO3
Salihah bt Mohd Amin (Bik Leha, Nenek Leha)

PHOTO4

PHOTO5

Parents of Salmah Ahmad and Salmiah Ahmad.

Salihah bte Mohd Amin and Ahmad bin Dom.

PHOTO6
Ahmad bin Dom

PHOTO7
Bapak and Pak Din at rumah Nenek Leha after she returned from the Hajj. 26 June 1988. Photo from Bapak's pendrive of 2009.

PHOTO8
Mak (2nd left in blue) with Coco's sister Hasnah (extreme left), Nenek Endon (isteri Tok Ali Alor Star, Kedah), Nenek Alang (isteri Tok Alang Kg Baru, ibu mak cik Milah/aunty Jamilah Salleh), Kamariah dukung Afiq (isteri arwah Farid) and Mak Besar/Habsah is behind Kamariah (in pink dress). At rumah Nenek Leha (Bik Leha or Salihah bt Mohd Amin) after returning from the Hajj (Nenek Leha balik drp Haji). Dated 26 June 1988

PHOTO9
At left is Nenek Leha (Bik Leha), after her return from the Hajj. Seated on the chair is Nenek Rahmah (Bik Rama), wife of Tok Ali Gombak. 26 June 1988

PHOTO10
Same as above but 2 additional neneks can be seen at left. On the extreme left is Nenek Alang (Sum bt Ahmad, isteri Tok Alang Kg Baru, KL). Nenek Leha is in light blue tudung, talking to Nenek Rahmah (Bik Rama).  26 June 1988

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Same as above but 2 new neneks have joined in on the extreme left and right. Who are they? One nenek is Nenek Zainab (Bik Jenab). The other nenek is Nenek Enson (Bik Enson). Who are the kids? 26 June 1988. 

All photos below are from the respective Facebook accounts of Nenek Leha's daughters.

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PHOTO10

PHOTO11

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5. ENSON BTE MOHD AMIN
@ BIK ENSON

PHOTO1
Enson bt Mohd Amin
(Bik Enson/Nenek Enson)

Enson bt Mohd Amin @ Bik Enson
She married to Abdul Ghani

Children: 8

1. Fatimah
2. Roslin (Datin Roslin)
3. Siti Salmah
4. Maimunah
5. Ramlah
6. Samsuddin
7. Yusof
8. Ann

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Tea at Rumah Banda Hilir, early 1960s - circa 1962/63.
Mak Ainon serving tea (after lunch) to Nenek Enson and Nenek Leha.
From left: Mak Ainon (Che Non, Umbai), Nenek Enson (Bik Enson) and Nenek Leha (Bik Leha).
Nenek Leha is the mother of Salmah Ahmad.

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At Nenek Leha's house after she returned from the Hajj. 26 June 1988. There are 2 persons at extreme right and left. One person is Nenek Zainab (Bik Jenab) and the other person is Nenek Enson (Bik Enson). Who is with yellow tudung? Who are the kids? Photo from Bapak's pendrive of 2009.

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6. ENDON BTE MOHD AMIN
@ BIK ENDON

Endon bt Mohd Amin
@ Bik Endon / Nenek Endok of Alor Star, Kedah
isteri Tok Ali Kedah

Endon bt Mohd Amin @ Bik Endon

She married to Ali (Tok Ali Kedah)

The family lived in Alor Star, Kedah

Bik Endon kahwin Tok Ali (Information Officer/Pegawai Penerangan) di Alor Star, Kedah

Children: 10

From Siti Aishah bt Mohd Ali (11 August 2013):

Anak-anak Bik Endon:

(arwah = ar)

1. Maimunah (ar) @ Hafsah @ Mak Besar... I met her in 1965 at her wedding.
2. Rohana (ar) 
3. Harisfathilah (ar)
4. Jaafar 
5. Mustafa (ar) 
6. Zainah 
7. Siti Zaleha 
8. Siti Aishah, ... Facebook/sitiaishahmohdali08 ... I met her in January 2016.
9. Kamal 
10. Mashitah (ar @ birth)

Who is Zawiyah or Zawyah?

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Nenek Endon is third from left. At rumah Bik Leha after she returned from the Hajj. Baju biru is my Mak. Left most is adik Tan Sri Coco Majid. Nenek Alang is behind Nenek Endon. Kamariah is in tudung putih carrying her eldest child - Mohd Afiq bin Muhd Farid. Behind her is Mak Cik Maimunah anak Nenek Endon. All are arwah except Kamariah and her son.

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Anak perempuan Nenek Busu operates a restaurant called Putera Ayu d Padang at Padang Jawa in KL. Aunty Siti Aishah bt Mohd Ali (anak Tok Ali-Nenek Endon Kedah) ajak makan dinner on 21 January 2016. She brought along her son. I went with my 2 daughters, Mira (adik) and Farah (kakak). Aznijar bin Ahmad-Yazid (saudara Bapak sebelah Dato Jenaton) joined us much later.

Aunty Siti Aishah and her son at Putera Ayu d Padang, 21 January 2016.

Aznijar talking to anak Aunty Siti Aishah. Aznijar is a lecturer in Engineering at UM.

Mira (left) and Farah

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7. IDRIS BIN MOHD AMIN
@ TOK BUSU JENGKA

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Idris bin Mohd Amin
@ Tok Busu Jengka

Idris bin Mohd Amin @ Tok Busu Jengka

Full name: Idris bin Mohd Amin

Call name: Tok Busu Jengka

Occupation: Welder (tukang kimpal besi)
Sibs: Idris bin Mohd Amin, Bik Che Mah, and Bik Esah (Nenek Inchek)
Idris (Busu) - tinggal di Jengka (deceased) 

From Bapak:

Pak Idris was the youngest sibling and had no education as a young person. After the Second World War (WWII), Pak Idris and Pak Rashid (Tok Rashid Serdang) worked at an iron ore mining company (syarikat) that shipped iron to Japan. He married Nenek Busu (Mak Busu). Source: Bapak (HARMY = Haji Abdul Rashid bin Mohd Yusope) 3 October 2007

Tok Idris ... kahwin Nenek Busu
He married Zainab @ Nenek Busu from Terengganu

Wife: Zainab
Call names: Nenek Busu / Mak Busu from Terengganu
Nenek Busu (widow to Tok Busu Idris) also lives in Jengka Pusat.

Children: 4

1. Jamel 
2. Jamal (lives in Klang or Putrajaya)
3. Yasmin (KL)
4. Yaslina (currently lives in Jengka Pusat). 

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Anak perempuan Nenek Busu operates a restaurant called Putera Ayu d Padang at Padang Jawa in KL.
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Tok Busu in Jengka Pusat

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Ramli Hamid (suami Rabi'ah) and Tok Busu di Jengka Pusat, Pahang. 1987
Photo from Bapak's collection.
Both men are deceased.

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PHOTO3
Pak Din and Tok Idris. June 1987.
From Abang Sharif (25 April 2012): 2nd Pic - Pak Din & Tok Idris rumah Pak Din - double-storey government quarters in KL. From me: both are deceased.

PHOTO4
Zainab/Nenek Busu Jengka 22 June 2014
Larger photo from Prof Hamzah bin Mohd Saleh

PHOTO5
Zainab/Nenek Busu Jengka
At Azizah bt Ramli's wedding 26 December 2015

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Jamal bin Idris 22 June 2014

Larger photo from Prof Hamzah bin Mohd Saleh

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Nenek Busu Jengka; Son-in-law wearing cap (husband of Yaslina bt Idris – second daughter of Nenek Busu); and Jamal bin Idris (second son of Nenek Busu). - Larger photo from Prof Hamzah bin Mohd Saleh.

PHOTO8
Yaslina bt Idris 22 June 2014
Larger photo from Prof Hamzah bin Mohd Saleh

PHOTO9
Yaslina bt Idris and husband
Larger photo from Prof Hamzah bin Mohd Saleh

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8. RAHMAH BTE MOHD AMIN

@ BIK RAHMAH

From Bapak:
Bik Rahmah di Kajang. 

Either her husband/son was the Ambassador to Japan.

9. ZAWYAH BTE MOHD AMIN

Her name was obtained from Pak Cik Hassan.

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There is nothing known about the children of Hasnah @ Nenek Senah, Mohd Amin's fourth wife.

She had children from her previous marriage, but had no children from her marriage to Mohd Amin.

There is no update on her or her children.

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Altogether, Mohd Amin had 15 children from 3 wives; a fourth wife was barren with Mohd Amin, but had children from her previous marriage.